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For those not keeping up with the news regarding Assange:Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has been accused of rape in Sweden, and the UK wants to extradite him for these allegiations. Many fear that Sweden will then extradite him to the US, where he will likely be sentenced to death for his role in the US diplomatic cable leaks.After his extradiction was upheld, he fleed to the Ecuadorian embassy in London and requested asylum in Ecuador. Yesterday London threatened to invade the Ecuadorian embassy (which is diplomatically equivalent to being Ecuadorian territory) to arrest Assange. Doing so would be a breach of the Vienna Convention (international law) and thus a hostile act from the UK to Ecuador.Earlier today, Assange was granted asylum in Ecuador. Police are currently surrounding the building, and people are protesting outside. Invasion seems unlikely right now, but a British law allows the government to temporarily revoke the building's embassy status, so they can enter it and arrest Assange.
He's gonna get the shit tortured out of him and there is nothing anyone can do about it because the US wants it that way
>>29003This sounds like the setup to the climax of an action movie. Assange is thinking furiously: he knows it's only a matter of time before he's a sitting duck in the Ecuadorian embassy and he has to plan his escape. Luckily he's not alone: he has the assistance of a diverse cast of characters that include a sympathetic but initially untrustworthy Ecuadorian politician, an adroit, sassy white heroine who is also a computer wiz and implied love interest, and a wise-cracking, Guy Fawkes-admiring anarchist with pyrotechnic skills who is heavily implied to be a chav. The final scene is a high speed street chase with Assange at the wheel and the politician wounded in the passenger side. The anarchist distracts police with homebrew bombs and booby-traps, while evading capture on a stolen motorcycle. The heroine manipulates streetlights in Assange's favor while coordinating the team over radio. The final scene involves Assange and the politician ramping onto a friendly cargo barge, shooting down a chasing helicopter with a well timed bazooka shot, then sailing off into the sunset.This is actually the only way I imagine this whole thing being resolved in Assange's favor. Not only would he escape but he'd probably get some sick movie deals as a stuntman to boot.
>>29008From what I heard on the radio a bit earlier, law says that the British police can (indefinitely) stop, but not search, the vehicle.
I heard there were talks about making Assange a Ecuadorian ambassador, which would be really rad, but I think he's fucked anyway, unless other countries start backing him up. like Russia, I think the UK would be a lot more cautious about pissing them off.
The cool thing is that nothing on wikileaks even mattered, it was all low level dumb shit that wasn't news to anyone. But because it embarrassed a bunch of politicians just by happening, the US wants to hunt him down and execute him
>>29014Everybody with a reasonable level of intelligence and knowledge knew it already. However, most Western people are dumb and most non-Western people are ignorant. Wikileaks brought the general public's attention to the crimes our governments are committing. However, much more importantly, it gave citizens of many non-Western countries insight into the corruption in their governments (information which due to state censorship barely reached any people domestically), which was the last straw that sparked the Arab Spring.Also, there's still "insurance.aes256", of which nobody knows the contents, but it's heavily implied that it strongly incriminates at least the US government somehow. The released cables confirmed things everybody who can think for himself already expected, but there might very well be many unreleased cables that contain information even we're unaware of.
>>29015can't wait for asscreed 3!
It's great, looking at the west condemning the kremlin over pussy riot as it goes the political lightyear to get their hands on assrange.I mean let's say assrange did rape a poor girl in stockholm. What the fuck took them so long to process the case? Why right after he does the cable leak thing? And if the case was only brought to light due to the release of the cables - anybody with half a braincell can see that it is - does this mean our governments literally don't give a fuck if we get raped unless our rapist also fucks with them?>prison rape and the effort toward the prosecution of vs. assange rape and the effort toward the prosecution ofOh right.
>>29015I thought the insurance file was cracked a while ago, and it turned out to be (surprise) nothing at all important
>>29022Source on this? All I can find is news that was later proven wrong.
http://www.thisdayinwikileaks.org/2012/08/081712.html"This Day in Wikileaks". Contains a whole bunch of information and links, mostly about the Assange asylum case.
it's looking more and more like Israel is going to attack Iran. My mom said it was a good thing because Iran is bad, and when I told her Israel is extremely shitty as well she called me a white supremacist. So there's what the average american feels about it in case you were wondering
>>29078http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-syria-weapons-president-153/And the U.S. is going to attack Syria!
>>29080the difference is that syria is already falling apart and in chaos, whereas iran is merely doing things that every other country does (develop nuclear plants, test missiles, etc) and it makes israel uncomfortable. so when israel attacks iran's key offensive sites (you know, schools and hospitals), we are supposed to pretend it's totally okay because they are asking for it and gladly follow israel into world war 3
Republicans want to ban pornographyhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/27/gop-anti-porn-plank-platform_n_1833840.htmlIt's kind of funny how republicans have decided to just fuck it and become a 100% parody of themselves. Porn should be banned, women shouldn't be allowed in the military, and if you get impregnated by a rapist then tough shit harlot, it's obviously what god wanted.
Please for the love of god someone nuke America already. It's the only way
Obama did an Ask Me Anything on Reddit. Something Awful goons collectively shit their pants and talk about how the president is now a pedophile
>>29187I'm suprised to see a politician do something like that. I'm not suprised at the SA crowd's response. There is something seriously wrong with those people.
>>29189>There is something seriously wrong with those people.Are you referring to SA or Reddit? They both work contextually so I can't tell.
>>29191They are both shit. Reddit because of it's unfunny garbage meme crap that makes 4chan look intelligent, and SA because of it's weird uneven sense of political correctness and it's self-importance despite the fact it hasn't been relevant for the better part of a decade.The weird sense of political correctness is especially funny because you can talk about how you wish every japanese person on earth was tortured to death for the invention of anime, but call a woman a cunt or say you don't like a particular black person and all hell breaks loose. Someone in a thread about working at a strip club got mad because the guy talking about it was referring to strippers as "girls" instead of "women".
Hacker claims to have Mitt Romney's tax records, holds them ransom for 1 million bitcoins: http://venturebeat.com/2012/09/05/romney-tax-returns-hacked/why not just ask for monopoly money (not that he has them anyway)
>>29292This is genuinely hilarious.
Canada has cut diplomatic ties with Iran, closing its embassy there and expelling Iranian diplomats.http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-severs-diplomatic-ties-with-iran-citing-safety-concerns-1.946127I find this all deeply disturbing. If Iran were purportedly a great danger, wouldn't you want to have diplomats stationed there exactly to prevent things from escalating, or to negotiate if things do escalate?But most disturbing of all are the comments. Comments such as>Michelle>Sep. 8, 2012>7:20 PM>I feel a war coming on :) Finally Canada shows some backbone!!!!!!!!Is this how the populace feels...? Is the slaughter of countless men and women something to look forward to? The Iraq War had roughly 150,000 casualties, of which 100,000 civilian. And that was probably an easier war than against Iran, meaning the actual war will take longer and have significantly more casualties. Have people already been brainwashed at this point to believe such a war is a good thing...?
>>29365>wouldn't you want to have diplomats stationed there exactly to prevent things from escalating, or to negotiate if things do escalate?That's if you don't want to go to war with them.And the only country more overtly jew-controlled than France is Canada, so it's little wonder they are the ones casting the first stone at Iran and then claiming the other party started it.Hell, the CIA and the FBI said saddam did NOT have weapons of mass destruction. Did that stop us from going to 'war' with Iraq? And again they, as well as the UN, are saying that it is clear that Iran is only using it's nuclear program for civil, peaceful purposes. Do you seriously think that is going to stop the conflict that the media is painting as "inevitable, just waiting to happen because of Iran's desire to nuke America" even right before the election?
>>29365It's pretty obvious who's really pulling the strings.''We're really mad at you Iran, we're so mad that we're going to remove our ambassadors, yeah, how do you like that!''
The west is going to attack Iran because Israel really fucking hates them and all muslim people, and the west never calls Israel out on their bullshit. Their military used innocent Palestinian people as human shields and all that happened was a "hey guys that's not very nice" from the UN
I hate real life shit
>>29365Canada doesn't actually have armed forces and has never participated in a war beyond a couple expeditionary forces under British command, so they have a lot of patriotism and not much realism. I think you can forgive them that. They simply don't know any better.
>>29373Canada does have armed forces, they are just pitiful when compared to America's. They are currently in Afghanistan and also participated in Libya.
Mitt Romney's facebook page had almost 8 million "likes", then after facebook started banning bots it dropped to almost 1 million. This is what the modern presidential campaign looks like
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/schumer-newfangled-detergent-pods-candy-article-1.1155442"Laundry detergent looks too delicious" - A United States Senator
>>29387Honestly, if you took off the label, those things would look like a candy jar full of delicious sweets.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/09/six-strikes-internet-warning-system-really-truly-coming-to-us-this-year/US citizens will soon have their internet cut for their immoral thievery. There's absolutely no way the perfect and divine US government will abuse this in no time.
>>29394I would say "Time to get a VPN" but my ISP isn't even doing this thing. And even if they were I don't download hollywood movies or music or anything else the MPAA or RIAA would have their watchdogs on
>>29395Don't worry, the policy will soon be expanded to hate speech, bomb making manuals (and other 'terrorist documents'), loli and other unwanted material. You'll get to enjoy the new policies soon enough (likely within five years, probably less).
Someone I sort of knew on the internet died in the Libyan embassy attack. He was a total dipshit and had a stupid tattoo. Please keep this in mind when the news discusses this in the coming days
>>29365Just as planned.
>>29401http://themittani.com/news/rip-vile-ratHim?Just look at all that freedom, democracy and humanity in the Arab spring countries.
the funny thing about vilerat dying is that if he would have just run away instead of taking the time to type "FUCK GUNFIRE!" on mumble he might have lived. like theres jokes about people blogging while they get killed but this actually happened
>>29408A stupid tattoo indeed.
i can't stop laughing. that the article is protected is what really seals it
One less SA goon in the world.
>>29416A mod, no less. Islam truly is the light
Can't we nuke the whole middle east and part of Africa already?http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19602177
>>29437The middle east is in such a sad state because they never recovered from the last big Mongol invasion. Ever since then, it's been in a constant state of conflict. Repeating that wouldn't change anything; the same goes for meddling in their affairs behind the scenes.What I don't understand is why the US don't do another Marshall plan. You know, set up your own international megacorporations for mutual benefit and profit.
>>29438You know, that's going to prove a bit difficult if the people condemn imperialistic western pigs and especially americans in every regard. Religious bullshit (even the non-fanatic ones) and non-secular society make matters even more impossible.
>>29438I'd say that it's mostly the power play from the cold war that's the reason for the overall shittiness in the middle east area. Anyway, why would the US do another Marshall plan? The whole deal with that was to create a strong barrier against the commies. You're being naïve if you think Marshall did it just to be nice. Now that the US is the only remaining superpower there's no real point in repeating it.>>29437 The main point that you and most people don't see, is that developing a semi-functional democracy à la the west is really fucking hard. It took us a couple of thousand years, and it's probably going to take 50-100 years in the middle east even with help from the west and iphones and whatever. In a society like that, where education is scarce, religion becomes a really fucking big deal, so naturally people will get pissed off when someone make a dumb film criticizing Islam or draw "fahny carton of mohadm".
>>29437>It depicts the Prophet Muhammad as a womaniser and leader of a group of men who enjoy killing.Wait, isn't that about right?
>>29441Yes.I'd go as far as to wager that mohammed was very much like clinton, bill franklin, hitler and other historical figures.
>>29440The western world isn't doing anything to encourage education and individual thinking down there, on the contrary, their only sending soldiers that don't accomplish jack shit pushes the middle east even further away.
>>29444The great thing about the democratic development in the Middle East and Africa is that it doesn't need any conscious actions from the West. As long as internet and cellphones get cheaper everything's good.
>>29444they don't need education and thinking, what they need is mcdonalds and wal-marts for everyone
>>29447That's how Murrica became a third world country.
Islam is a religion that encourages violence and when you combine that with a people who are generally not very intelligent then bad things happen.
>>29444>The western world isn't doing anything to encourage education and individual thinking down thereExcuse me, what the fuck do you expect "The western world" to do in a sovereign state?Besides shit like Facebook and Twitter probably is doing that already, if only partially because of local influence/censorship.>>29446It's not like this or democracy in general means the masses will automatically make "right" decisions. You may replace "right" with words such as empathic, thoughtful or humanly.
Apple is suing a polish fruit store for copyright infringementhttp://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/11/us-apple-trademark-idUSBRE88A0IW20120911
>>29450Send humanitarian aid instead of guns? Or at least use all that firepower to stamp out the Afghan drug cartels?You know, use all that spending for something that benefits the maximum amount of people rather than just the weapons industry.
>>29452Yes, because humanitarian aid totally worked for africa.
>>29449The same could be said of any religion. Religions by themselves generally do not encourage violence, religious organizations and political leaders just use them as tools to make people do what they want people to do.
>>29452>>29453"Humanitarian aid" from one country to another is plain political bribery. The money ends up with the leaders, not the people. If it does somehow end up being used "for the people", that tends to have strong ulterior motives as well.I recently read this interesting article on how the US gained huge commercial advantage in Haiti under the guise of "humanitarian aid" after the big earthquake: http://www.opendemocracy.net/matt-kennard/haiti-and-shock-doctrine
>>29454>The same could be said of any religionhttp://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-this-image,29553/
>>29564know where I can find an up-ressed version?
>>29564The whole "but violence was brought by other religions too" point so often brought up is so moot. They stopped doing that fortunately about 200 years ago. Whereas today, in the 21st century, you have a whole lot of countries that "officially and lawfully" and with the approval of their people, murder in gruesome ways for stuff like adultery, being gay, insulting religious figures, converting to another religion or more.
>>29571>"I am driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did.>And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'. And, by God, I'm gonna do it."Bam, 30.000+ deaths in the War in Afghanistan and 150.000+ deaths in the Iraq War (most of which are civilians). All in the name of the Christian God.People are less willing to swallow it here so it's not as big a deal, but it still happens nonetheless.
>>29572what you described is one misguided man using his powers to bumble around and ruin lives, for what he believed would turn out OK in the end. muslim violence is the result of lots of dumb individuals flipping the fuck out and wanting to murder anyone who insults their bullshit.
>>29575>one misguided man No way, Bush Junior was just a puppet, he was never in control of anything. There was a whole structure behind him who decided everything he was supposed to do and say, and they were well aware of what they were doing. And anyway, if it was just one guy, why weren't there protest or, you know, an uprising or something? If our prime minister used religion as a reason to go to war he'd be sacked on the spot.
>>29576>why weren't there protest or, you know, an uprising or something? Because it's America and americans are dumb lazy twats. the only thing we get fighting mad about is sports teams
I hope the china/japan island dispute thing gets settled peacefully. How are they gonna make my cute girl pictures if they're too busy fending off chinese people
>>29576>If our prime minister used religion as a reason to go to war he'd be sacked on the spot. You say that as if the speech he'll use to "assist" the US in the Iran conflict won't include the words "our brave ally, Israel" as in protecting them from "jihad and other Iranian threats" in any way, shape, or form.
>>29590Art will continue being made during wars, propaganda motifs just become very common during it. Prepare to see your cute girls dying for their country.
>>29591I actually doubt that, honestly.
>>29597>cute girls>dyingNOOOOOOOOOOOSAY NO TO WAR EVERYONESAY NO TO WAR
I can't wait to watch Fox News on election day. When Obama won the first time they acted like someone just died, when he wins this time they are gonna be suicidal.
>>29613Huh, I don't watch TV, but are news channels biased towards specific presidents?
>>29614I don't even live in the US and even I know that.
>>29614Fox News is extremely biased towards republicans (rich people, old people, stupid people, etc). Here is the totally fair and unbiased headline for when the OWS protestors got kicked out of the park.
>>29631OWS is really stupid, yeah, but that's not the point.
Actual footage of the Romney campaign
>>29613I also can't wait for the next election in 4 years since Obama is gonna win this one. The Republicans will be so buttmad that they will place a real hardcore Tea-Party style candidate and probably win unless Obama miraculously save the world economy. Geopolitical things will stop being boring when the US has a real cowboy hero as president again.I can't wait.>>29615Same.
romney finally released his tax returns! well, actually it was just the one from 2011 and a notarized letter saying he TOTALLY hasn't been a tax cheat for the last 20 years. what no you cant see those returns just trust us okay. why the fuck would he even do this
>>29673Also he said that if he paid more than the least he could in taxes by not taking advantage of every deduction possible, he "didn't deserve to be president". According to the summary, he paid about 4% more than necessary for no real reason (probably to make it look more "average"). Basically, >>29633
>>29644I miss the cowboy heroes as well.
republicans are so desperate, it's amazinghttp://www.unskewedpolls.com/
>>29840Wow. Are there really people who actually take such rot seriously? It just blows my mind.
>>29851It's the most watched TV news channel in the united states
So Turkey returned some strikes after Syria hit a village on the border. Can we have a real war already?
Obama really cocked that debate up. It's not going to matter too much though. Hopefully it brings my ideal outcome, a Romney popular vote win but electoral loss, closer to reality.
>>29894nobody gives a shit about either of them, so its not gonna lead to any sort of global conflict
>>29896Yeah nobody does, except Turkey is actually a NATO member. If it would develop to a real war between them, NATO has to either butt in on turkeys side or it is de facto a dead union.
>>29899>it is de facto a dead unionbingo
>>29899>>29901It's a union? I thought it was an exclusive club for the USA's vassal states.
It's kind of weird to think that in 50 years you will barely be considered a human being in america if you don't have millions of dollars
>>29945What makes you say that?
>>29946Eventually there will be no middle class. It's going to be poor ghettos and rich gated communities, with nothing in between. Rich will be the new social standard, anyone who isn't will basically be a charity case not unlike those "donate to a poor orphan child in africa" commercials. Unless of course we have another giant war and draft, in which case the lower class will get shipped off to die and the middle class will have a little more breathing room for another few decades
>>29947You will always have a middle class. The difference is that they (try to) act like they are upper class, gladly suck up to them, and will gleefully shit all over "welfare" and "handouts" and stomp on the fingers of the people one rung below them on the ladder.
I am literally going to die if Romney is elected (changes will make it so I am not on my parents' insurance anymore, and will not be able to get my asthma medications) but my mother still loves him. I mean I want to die, but not via suffocation.
>>29956and it's looking like he will be, so my days are literally numbered. I guess by this time next year I'll be in gensokyo
>>29947Jesus christ, you can't be serious.Pseudo-intellectualism sure is entertaining.
>>30011Yeah, he's so wrong you don't even need to explain why he is wrong! You sure told him!
>>30011You DO realize we *may or may not* be on our way back to the gilded age?
>>29956>>30010I have good news! First, Romney has an under 50% chance of winning, and second, it's possible to wean yourself off of asthma medications as long as you take it easy with regards to aerobic exercise. I haven't taken mine in years.
>>30039get outta here nate silver
I can't believe a man who called half of the country peasants (basically) who shouldn't feel entitled to food has a real shot at running this country. At what point will America just be a total lost cause?
>>30095>At what point will America just be a total lost cause? When Al Gore legitimately had the most votes in his name, but the courts appointed G. W. as the legitimate president.
>>30098That has a chance of happening again with Obama and it would be glorious
>>30095>At what point will America just be a total lost cause?It's already beyond that.
>>30101Conservatives sure are melodramatic.
>>30108>ConservativesWhere did you get that idea?
So, I'm trying to wrap my head around the US economy in simple terms. My understanding is that Bush-kun left the Murrican economy in an acceleration of -g. Did Obama's 4 years of reign leave that in an even larger negative value or did he improve it by even the slightest bit? One of the argument of the people suffering from Romnesia seems to be that after 4 years of Obama, the economy is still has a negative speed (the antiderivative of economical acceleration), regardless of whether there was an improvement to the acceleration or not.Well, shit, writing that down doesn't make it any clearer, but hopefully there's someone on here who can understand that clusterfuck.
>>30116If you're talking about the whole debt problem (I'm assuming you do, since the economy is just in a recession, which is declining growth, not a depression which is actual negative growth), it's a difficult issue and whether Obama improved things depends on how you look at it.In the graph (data taken from https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:USDebt.png), you'll see that if you extrapolate the data from 2001-2009 (all of Bush's presidency), the resulting debt is lower than what Obama had at the end of 2010. However, if you extrapolate from the latest and sharpest increase (in 2008) you'll see that it's significantly higher than Obama's. Simply put, Obama's debt increase was less than Bush's at his worst point, but more than Bush in general. The increase did slow during the recorded 2009 and 2010 years.I unfortunately have no 2011 data, which would be very useful to properly evaluate this.
>>30117yeah the 2011 data would be useful in telling whether the slope continues to decrease each year during Obama's presidency. Thanks for the informative post, Anon.
Iran is agreeing to nuke talkshttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/21/world/iran-said-ready-to-talk-to-us-about-nuclear-program.html?_r=2&hp&Considering Romney has been saying that Obama is an idiot and the only way to get negotiations going was to start another fucking war, this is pretty good news. Especially considering the next debate is entirely foreign policy
>>30117Apparently we need to get Clinton back in office.
>>30160I didn't follow any politics at the time, but I get the impression that Clinton was a great guy.
Clinton was really cool, as evidenced by the fact the only criticism conservatives usually have against him is "he got his dick sucked in the oval office and she wasnt his wife!!!!!". Then Bush shat all over everything and here we are
>>30171actually, they were more offended that the girl who was sucking the dick was black than her being not his wife.>>30116As for the economy, it's more of Bush-kun got rid of all the safegards, and then when the banks fucked over the US people, he bailed them out and let them do as they please, business as usual, not a single federal criminal charge was filed. Of course, there was a bit of a delay between him signing the bail out and it going into effect, hence "Obama's bailout" because it happened after Obama took office.The bigger issue is the rabbit hole that bush left the US to step into, with an absolutely massive revenue cut combined with a small gov.t spending increase. To put it in perspective: in the first year of the Bush tax cuts, the estimated tax revenue that was lost would cover THE ENTIRE IRAQ WAR EXPENDITURE FROM THE FIRST INVASION TO DEC. 31st, 2012 WHEN THE MAJORITY OF THE MILITARY OFFICIALLY PULLED OUT. This is what is leading to our debt problems, as in order to "sustain" the current spending, the US must "borrow" money from the Fed, to be paid back in full plus interest, and the portion of the national budget that goes to paying back the interest alone is growing at a faster rate than medicare and the military sections combined -- it's a real damn problem, and combined with the shitty economy where the gov.t can't afford to even maintain the wellfare for the poor while the poor get hit with pension and pay freezes across the board while the rich get record profits (look at income inequality), it's the sort of problem that can't be fixed without some rather extreme measures that realistically can't and won't get done.Lastly, with how exponential everything goes, extrapolation isn't a viable option for predicting how things will turn out. It's why there are multiple "schools" of economics and such, and none of them seem to do more than be political scape goats when things go wrong or used as anything other than a means to make a political end.
>>30151What either of them say in the 3rd debate won't matter because it's at the same time as monday night football and nobody is going to watch it. The media will say the debate was a draw no matter what and the american public will believe them
>>30176Monica Lewinsky is not black
>>30177well, actually only CNN and MSNBC will say it was a draw and Fox News will say Romney won hands down. My mistake
hello this is bush-kunyall stop makin fun of me now ya hear ill have u arrested
Bush-dono was keeping it real.Shitbama and Romney ain't true Gs.
For the second time, Arizona is telling spanish speaking voters (democrats) the wrong election date. america owns
>>30234So? All we did was mistranslated some numbers, Big deal!
>>30234Evil (republican) scum.
oh my godhttp://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/ohio-election-results-could-come-weeks-after-nov
Obama called Romney a bullshitter. Because this is America, this might be a big deal
>>30234In all fairness, if they can't speak English on a basic level, they wouldn't have passed the citizenship exam anyway.
I like how there is a massive disastrous storm heading towards the east coast, and the news is saying "No we are serious it's bad, we aren't just hyping it up this time". Sums up the media pretty well really
http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/2097-massive-sea-floor-shove-triggered-japan-tsunami.htmlThe Tohoku Tsunami was big,but no wonder.The sea floor moved 33 feet up and hundred or two horizontally.I can see now why it was 9.0 magnitude quake
I wonder how the hurricane will impact voting next week. Everyone who knows what they are talking about says "It won't", but my worrying side is telling me "it means romney will win new york and death is certain"
>KING: Governor Romney? You’ve been a chief executive of a state. I was just in Joplin, Missouri. I’ve been in Mississippi and Louisiana and Tennessee and other communities dealing with whether it’s the tornadoes, the flooding, and worse. FEMA is about to run out of money, and there are some people who say do it on a case-by-case basis and some people who say, you know, maybe we’re learning a lesson here that the states should take on more of this role. How do you deal with something like that?>>ROMNEY: Absolutely. Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that’s the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that’s even better.>Instead of thinking in the federal budget, what we should cut — we should ask ourselves the opposite question. What should we keep? We should take all of what we’re doing at the federal level and say, what are the things we’re doing that we don’t have to do? And those things we’ve got to stop doing, because we’re borrowing $1.6 trillion more this year than we’re taking in. We cannot…>>KING: Including disaster relief, though?>>ROMNEY: We cannot — we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids. It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we’ll all be dead and gone before it’s paid off. It makes no sense at all.http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/06/14/244973/mitt-romney-federal-disaster-relief-for-tornado-and-flood-victims-is-immoral-makes-no-sense-at-all/?mobile=ncWonder if Romney would privatize the government itself if he had the opportunity to do so. (Talking about official privatization, it's already controlled by corporations.)
>>30309That's what this idiot is all about.
Any of you Amerifriends planning to emigrate?
>>303131. No, I don't have the money2. Romney isn't going to win3. Even if he did, America's corruption spreads throughout all first world countries so moving somewhere else would only be a bandaid
>>30313I know a lot of people who talk shit about how they're going to move to another country if some election doesn't go their way, but none of them have ever actually done it.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/10/30/1110901/bush-fema-director-katrina-hits-obama-sandy/What is this onion article doing on a serious website...oh
>>30322>the critique has mutated into a belief that Obama is currently “playing President” to score points during disaster relief in the run-up to the electionB-but... He is the President!
>>30297"hurricane"You mean the slight breeze and rain?New England babbies don't know what a REAL hurricane is.
>>30323but hes black
Only 2 days after america's largest city gets its shit pushed in and fox is already back to work trying to get romney elected. Fox is gonna be the channel to watch on the 6th
>>30357>fox news poll: Obama tiedSo the lowest Obama poll minus the largest margin of error compared to the highest Romney poll plus the largest margin of error and the Romentum still doesn't pull ahead?Perhaps Fox is trying to ease their userbase into Obama's reelection being something less than a total and complete surprise (followed by violent riots)?
>>30371Ties are more interesting and ratings-grabbing, so they will stick with that until it's over. All the news outlets have been saying the race is "neck to neck" even when Obama was ahead by like 10% nationally and had over 300 EVs locked down
>>30371I'm more amused by the 'Bias Alert'.
>>30377here's another amusing fox thing (bloomberg actually endorsed Obama). It's fixed now, but Fox is always making "mistakes" like this. "accidentally" putting a (D) after a shamed Republican politician's name is practically a running gag
How many of you are planning on voting? I'm going to, even though I live in a state where it won't matter
>>30391>I'm going to, even though I live in a state where it won't matter THEN VOTE FOR A 3RD PARTY THAT BETTER REPRESENTS YOUR VIEWS!but seriously, if the libertarian party gets 5%+ of popular votes nation wide, the 2015 presidential debates will have *three* candidates standing side by side. And after what the RNC did to liberty and personal freedoms, any libertarians still going elephant are pants on head retarded.
>>30398I hate to burst your bubble but we aren't going to have a non-democrat/republican president within our lifetime.
>>30391I've already voted. Absentee ballot yo.
Here's a cool little thing that shows just how screwed Romney ishttp://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/11/02/us/politics/paths-to-the-white-house.html
>>30398Has the Libertarian Party even managed to get one seat in Congress in its entire history?There's no way for a third party to emerge anytime soon. The Democrats and Republicans are both too stable. Historically, strong third parties only emerge when some sort of major event causes a schism in either party (like the Free Soil Party and the American Party).
>>30405of the 3 independant seats in the senate, two are libertarian and one is green. Of course, you could say mariland and rhode island are so small that a 3rd party can have an actual chance, but that still counts as something.As far as the big game-changing thing, I'd consider the RNC thing where Ron Paul got shafted (as a big F-U to the entire libertarian and grassroots segments of the republican party) to be one such event. Telling a solid 20%+ of your voter base to go fuck themselves isn't something that is going to keep your party in power. I'm really hoping that a large portion of those learned a valuable lesson about where the republican party stands and goes 3rd party.Really, these past few pres. elections have been so close that what the RNC did alone should guarantee Obango a 2nd term, and probably the one after Democrat as well, and with the repub. party in decline it's the perfect opportunity for a 3rd party to be something bigger than the 0.5%, marginal, and not worth reporting party that only gets actual media coverage from C-Span.Hell, even Bill O'Reily said he predicts a 3rd party gaining significant and notable momentum in the up-comming years (he said it with Jon Stewart sitting on his lap, no less)
>>30406Oreily and Stewart are both awful shills and you shouldn't take anything either of them say seriously
republicans gonna repubhttp://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/11/03/1134981/last-minute-ohio-directive-could-trash-legal-votes-and-swing-the-election/?mobile=nc
>>30407now, the vice guide to traveling, there's some real shit.
>>30439...why is there a super smash brothers picture in the background!?
what the fuckhttp://romneymegaprayer.com/
So how long until they announce the results?
>>30453Some state results are coming out now, but the states that matter don't come out for another hour. Exit polling looking great for Obama, but exit polls are always a little iffy
Also here is a great tool for tracking thingshttp://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/president
Obama won. That's news I think
>>30473Must be his relatives
http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/insect-sized-spy-drone-robots-unveiledAt least they don't reproduce yet.
There's nothing wrong with letting non-military/paramilitary/policing/security forces use any form of firearm at all! Just look at Japan and Korea (and other third world nations with ban on firearms)! What a horrendously dangerous places to live in.
>>31414I like how people say "without guns he just would have found another way to kill those kids, guns dont make a difference!". If someone manages to kill 20 alert, able-bodied children in quick succession with nothing but their bare hands then they shouldn't even bother going after them, because they are superman
God damn America. Just nuke the rednecks already.
>>31418the shooter this time was a guy from the northeast, not really redneck territory. In fact none of the recent shooters have really been "rednecks"
>>31419I'm sorry, it was a figure of speech. I mean those stupid guys who vote in favor of things like capital punishment and gun ownership.
>>31417That's obviously a weak flawed argument, you're only pointing it out to make your counterargument seem more legitimate. >>31418I don't know if you were trying to be funny or if you really are just ignorant.I can already see where this is going.
>>31421>>31418>intentional gun deathsI like how this is phrased. It misleadingly makes you assume that one in two intentional gun deaths isn't a suicide, or that 75% of homicides with guns are that of prior fellon charged individuals of black or hispanic ethnicity and 90% of these homicides occur in ghetto parts of big cities where the minorities are the majority. Also note that the DoJ adds white hispanic to white non-hispanic for all their pieces of data.How about we instead look at TOTAL VIOLENT CRIME?Then we see that only Japan and two european countries are above the US in per-capita TOTAL VIOLENT CRIME statistics in the entire first world, and if you look at the graph of total violent crime vs. time (year), you see a SIGNIFICANT AND NOTICEABLE INCREASE FROM THE YEAR THE FIREARMS BAN IN EUROPE WENT INTO ACTION.
>>31423>or that 75% of homicides with guns are that of prior fellon charged individuals of black or hispanic ethnicity and 90% of these homicides occur in ghetto parts of big cities where the minorities are the majorityWell yeah, if we took black people and mexicans out of every statistic America would look like the greatest place in the world
Harvard Injury Control Research Centerhttp://www.hsph.harvard.edu/research/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/index.htmltl;dr version: more guns, more homicides
>>31423Total violent crimes? I'm not sure how that would even be compared when each nation's definition of these crimes is probably different, but I'm interested. Why don't you post some sources?According to this chart (http://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/Homicide/Globa_study_on_homicide_2011_web.pdf) by UNODC, the US has 3 times the homicide rate of Canada, 4 times of the UK, and 6 times of Germany, using the latest data provided for each nations.
>>31427yes, that's the HOMICIDE chart.not all violent crime ends with somebody dead. A mugging, burglery, stabbing, otherwise form of assault are generally considered violent crime. While there are things that vary by country (rape being considered a violent crime in some countries on it's own, even without injury of the victem), Those variances aren't enough to fully justify just how much more violence occurs.While this chart is fairly dated, it does give a better picture.As for the US, the areas with handgun bans (california, New york, D.C) have significantly larger rates of violent crime than the rest of the US, but also significantly larger minority populations and significantly more 'ghetto' regions as well.
so more black people = more crime and violence. Wow, you have opened my eyes
>>31428Source for that chart is http://www.observatorioseguranca.org/pdf/01%20%2823%29.pdf, which takes the number of crimes recorded by police. In a shithole like the US you're not reporting every single time you get robbed, and even if you do, you're never sure if the police will actually take it seriously.
The news is already blaming video games. It's like the 90s-early 2000s all over again, except masturbation isn't as fun
>>31432The same can be said of all those countries.You think brits trust their cops-who-don't-even-have-guns who watches them all day through big-brother-esque cameras yet can't use the films as evidence because the recording is of such a low quality?
>>31436I'm not saying the chart proves some other point like other countries having lower crime rates than the US, I'm saying the chart is unreliable and therefore not acceptable proof for the claim that other countries have higher violent crime rates than the US.
>>31428Not that I care too much about this eternal argument, but isn't that one of the main points of those in favor of gun control?Just as much violent crime but at least the guy only got stabbed in his arm, not had his brains blown out.Also, didn't you say only 2 European countries were better off than the US when it comes to violent crime rate? I see quite a few more.
>>31439>Also, didn't you say only 2 European countries were better off than the US when it comes to violent crime rate? I see quite a few more. >DATA FROM 2001In case you didn't read my post or don't understand why I wrote what I did, let me explain:In case you don't remember, for the past several years, yurop has had 20%+ unemployment, massive amounts of immigration from Africa and the middle east, and the die cis scum ramapant social degenercy increase.That chart is mostly accurate up through 2006, but from 2007 onward the picture changes a bit. It's not that the US's rate of violent crime goes down, but it just skyrockets all over yurop.
>>31440So why don't you post some sources to back up these claims of how the violent crime rates skyrocket in yurop? Not even the anon that you're responding to, BTW.Looking at the homicide rate chart linked earlier, it doesn't seem like such skyrocketing happened in yuroland, at least in the number of homicides.
>>31440>Europe has had ...Oh please. Germany has 5.4% unemployment, how about you compare the US to other industrial countries, not some arbitrary average that includes such economic powerhouses as Greece and Portugal.And the EU average is still 10.4%, not 20%, what the fuck man. Also, how about you post some data to back up these claims?In other news, after an attempted bombing attack by Islamists in Bonn, politicians want more video surveillance of public areas. Very much looking forward to joining the CCTV club.
>>31446I wonder if some of those are going to be publicly accessible like those Japanese ones.
>>31446I wish we also had CCTV.
Am I a sociopath for not caring as much about this shooting as much as everyone else? I mean obviously it was awful and I wish it didn't happen, but is anyone really shocked by mass shootings anymore? It's like America's "thing"
>>31454Also I laugh whenever the president says something needs to be done about it, because the things that could help are never gonna happen. Can't have stricter gun control because that would piss off too many people so no politician will even try, and can't have more affordable mental healthcare because then rich people won't make as much money off it. Depending on what they find on the psycho's computer they may try to use this as an excuse to butt into peoples' personal lives more but that's about it
>>31446>Germany has 5.4% unemploymentIf only that was really true. German unemployment numbers aren't credible. People are forced into meaningless "Maßnahmen", so they don't appear in the statistics. Doesn't matter that they don't work or don't get wages. Doesn't matter that they've been unemployed for years. Doesn't matter that the whole thing's a farce, but at least the numbers look nice. There's a whole state-financed industry living off of a high number of unemployed people. It's nuts.An increasing number of German youth don't believe that working hard and getting a good education pays off anymore. It wasn't like that 30, or even 20 years ago.
>>31455The easiest way to stop someone to throw it all away is to give him something to throw away.You can do this by giving them jobs.But that's not the endgame anyone wants. People, rich or poor, want to get rich, and helping the poor doesn't help with that.And for government officials, helping the poor means you're inevitably pissing someone who's paying for your wages.Yet people demand that you "Do something about it". Just "not with their money because why should I give them money?"At the same time, they dump billions into insurance against this very thing, if you want an additional layer of paradox.Clearly what's lacking here is organization - if we can just get all the poor, more-criminal-behaviour prone populations to organize under an agreement where each of them gets a certain piece of the insurance pie, while promising to only conduct a certain amount of crime every year - inversely proportional to the amount of total tithe they receive - we'd be fine....I've been reading too much discworld haven't I.
If we ban assault weapons there won't be any more violence in the world and we can all live together in a progressive society, free from hate!
How long will it be before america just gets numb to shootings. Like it was a big deal in aurora because there was so many, and it's a big deal now because it was mostly kids, but when will the general reaction to this sort of thing just be "meh".
>>31462We've been desensitized to these for years.Seriously, a week from now not even the media will give a fuck.I think that's the real reason the gun lobby is so successful in the States. We're really good at forgetting inconvenient events as a nation, so we never learn from our mistakes. (That would be admitting that we make mistakes!)
p.s. if you support legally armed militias or whatever the fuck the idiotic second amendment is for I hope someone sodomizes you with a kalashnikov
>>31465Is a "patriot group" something like a nazi party or the KKK?
>>31466More or less yeah
>>31458Protip: Everyone pimps these kinds of statistics. When Obama got more flak during the crisis he simply changed the methodology and presented new, 'seasonally-adjusted' statistics.Governments also love to bullshit when it comes to who gets counted as part of the workforce to begin with. For example, the US workforce is almost exactly the same as it was 4 years ago, despite the population growing by ~10 million.
I have my TV on cnn, and when they went to break (after showing pictures of the dead kids) there was a commercial for a local gun shop that was so ridiculous it could have easily been a fake one for a GTA game. This country is really cool
Hey does anyone remember the Portland shooting? Oh right.>>31464This doesn't really deserve a response but I will anyway.Why would I not support a right to obtain protection for myself? That being said U.S. gun laws are a joke.I wish the U.S. would've had stricter gun obtaining laws long ago, (something like Canada) but the illegal market is already flooded due to lax laws. Thus, making guns harder to purchase legally, however much of a good idea that is, probably won't have much of an effect on crime/shootings. Glorious Umerica is a dangerous place.And banning guns doesn't stop them from existing; if it did I would be in favor.I don't own a gun but it should be obvious why MOST people legally obtain one in the U.S.
>>31475>it should be obvious why MOST people legally obtain one in the U.S.Yeah, my dad bought one after a rash of break-ins started in out neighborhood. It didn't start until black people started moving out here but that's TOTALLY a coincidence!!!!
>>31475>Hey does anyone remember the Portland shooting? Oh right.Only 3 people died there and none of them were even children. That's 12 o'clock news shit
I hope they don't find anime and such on the guy's computers. The video game, TV, movie, and gun industries are safe, but the people are looking for SOMETHING they can blame this on and change, and erotic/violent foreign people cartoons would provide a pretty good scapegoat.
The people on the news sound so happy when video games are brought up. On CNN just now you could almost see a twinkle in the lady's eye as she mentioned the shooter played starcraft in high school
>>31488So, uh, did he wear power armor while riding a siege tank? Just wondering.
>>31514no but you see VIDEO GAMES
Gun sales skyrocket after school massacre.http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/18/gun-sales-surge-newtown-crackdownAMERICA
>>31483It wouldn't matter if they did. It wouldn't actually affect the industry. At most, it would affect the localization industry, which I don't give a piss about. And the lower the opinion of anime in the west, the better. Less fucktards in the fanbase.
>>31526rapelay getting press in the US caused a bit of a stir in the hentai industry a few years ago. if it turns out CHILDKILLER was into that kind of thing who knows what the hell would happen. thankfully, it seems like he destroyed all of his computers so I guess we won't find out. however an old classmate did mention he played starcraft in high school once so the video game debate will definitely start up again
>>31529Hilarious.>Hundreds of other mass murderers have perpetrated their crimes without automatic firearms. Frenchman Pierre Riviere killed his mother, sister, and brother with a bill hook in 1835. In 1932, Julian Marcelino, a Filipino immigrant of relatively small stature, managed to kill six and wound 15 on a Seattle street using only a pair of blades. In 1915, Monroe Phillips shot seven dead and wounded 32 with a shotgun in Georgia....All of which are less than the elementary school attack, or Columbine. Also, for some totally inexplicable reason the shotgun incident is the most fatal one of those listed.>Guns aren’t even the most lethal mass murder weapon. According to data compiled by Grant Duwe of the Minnesota Department of Corrections, guns killed an average of 4.92 victims per mass murder in the United States during the 20th century...per mass murder. Seriously? If you're defending against something said to encourage going postal, you're counting on a 'per incident' basis and not on a 'deaths per year' basis? Well, fortunately only 5 people die every time someone goes postal with a gun. What a relief!
>>31530you realize over half of all fire-arm related deaths are suicides,and then 45% of them involve ex-felons of african descent, right?>>31529the tradional method of killing a lot of people in a packed area is a bomb. gunpowder has existed longer than America has, and a blast large enough to kill dozens of people and injure multiple dozens more can be concealed in an oversized, puffy jacket while strapped to your torso.let's also not forget that automatic weapons are already illegal in the first place, so the question in the article's link is already rather moot in the first place.
>>31531>let's also not forget that automatic weapons are already illegal in the first placeGood info: http://youtu.be/YjM9fcEzSJ0
Even though Kim Jong Un won the vote, Time is gonna go with obama as person of the year...again. Why the fuck do they even have a poll if they just ignore it every time
>>31542Because the Jews at TIME love Obama.
Thread revival time~http://gizmodo.com/5984264/iceland-wants-to-ban-internet-pornhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57569538-93/iceland-works-to-block-internet-porn/>"But surely if we can send a man to the moon, we must be able to tackle porn on the Internet."It seems a little unclear what exactly is meant, as they seem to alternate between saying 'all porn' and 'violent porn'.
>>32547>Iceland>Send a man to the moonFunny, I don't remember that ever happening.>Now, by banning access to internet porn, Iceland will join countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and other temples of democracy widely known to protect women and children rights.And just like those countries, anyone who really wants internet porn will still be able to get it.
>>31542The online vote is separate from the magazine pick
>http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/meteor-over-russia-strikes-terror-leaves-nearly-1-000-hurt-1.1157829This is just like my japanese animes!
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2013/04/17/01016-20130417ARTFIG00354-un-ambulancier-sauve-par-le-malade-qu-il-conduisait-a-l-hopital.php#xtor=RSS-144French cancer patient on way to the hospital sees the driver showing symptoms of an oncoming heart attack, gives him some of his own medicines, and drives him to the hospital in the nick of time.
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/2008%20Med%20Hypotheses.pdfHoly shit. A group of modern scientists claiming that intelligence is genetic and that blacks are on average less intelligent than whites. Someone pinch me, I must be dreaming. We racial realists now.
>>34730That's 5 years old, though it never got much press for obvious reasons. It's also not a surprise at all, except maybe to people who have never interacted with actual black people (but those people will stick their fingers in their ears and run away anyway)
>>34730The worst thing about this I think is that they keep using methodologies proven to be flawed at best - and utterly wrong, if one wants to be a "realist" about it.IQ? Brain size? This shit is literally an inch away from full scale phrenology, and it resembles the same basis for a lot of eugenics research that has been proven wrong over and over again.If there is a correlation between race/genetics and intelligence, it should be investigated in manners that are more decisive. We need to kidnap children of various races and put them through standardized education (preferably with machine teaching), with actual control groups instead of this "hurr a bunch of kids are stooped in afreca thurfur all blacks must be stoopid too".All I want is for controversial points to be backed by real, indisputable evidence. Is this so hard?
>>34735>hurr a bunch of kids are stooped in afreca thurfur all blacks must be stoopid tooActually, it is statistically true that black people in the US on average have a significantly lower IQ. This is due to them getting less and/or lower-quality education due to poorer standards of living.
>>34738>This is due to them getting less and/or lower-quality education due to poorer standards of living. Nope. Other races at or below "average black living standards" still score higher than they do, and blacks with higher living standards still score lower.
Adoption studies has shown that, on average, black and mixed-race people tend to score low even if put in a stable, middle/upper class environment. The averages do increase but are still below poor whites.And let's not even bring in the Chinese farmers that perform excellently despite being near-destitute.I can only hope the Chinese genetic research program goes anywhere, but of course I can't say that because it means I want to kill all blackies and turn their kids into petroleum.
>>34745>but of course I can't say that because it means I want to kill all blackies and turn their kids into petroleumThis is why America is doomed. American schools these days are all about lowering the bar until black kids can get over it, then having to push them over it because they still don't bother trying. Meanwhile millions of kids who had potential don't get the attention they need because their teachers are still too busy trying to teach Jamal that 5x3=15 even though he is old enough to shave. But mentioning that this is a problem is racist so America just sits there and scratches it's head wondering how even borderline retarded people from other countries can outscore us.
I don't even live in the US, but isn't the problem that everyone just assume black kids are stupid, so they tell them to be gangsters or basket players? Not really many intellectual blacks on American TV shows.
>>34746>but isn't the problem that everyone just assume black kids are stupidUh, no. Going through black schools myself I can tell you that they get more encouragement and breaks than anyone. My senior paper deadline in high school was delayed for months because the black kids never used their library time the way they should. The teacher would focus on helping one student with their paper (such as how to spell "Martin Luther King", which is what almost all of them picked as their topic) then while she was off helping another black student the previous one would already have wandered back to the internet to look at pictures of shoes. It's like spinning retarded plates.
>>34752Clearly the Murikkkan education system has failed you as well if you think that the comparison is fair without a controlled specimen test subjects.First time posting in this thread regarding this topic, BTW.
>>34763Yeah gee whiz, what kind of fool pays attention to actual data, evidence, and the world around them instead of making up their own fantasy tests in their head and pretending those will say something different. Also god is real and red headed people have night vision.
>>34764But that data is inevitably flawed is the point here.For example - maybe you have some piece of evidence that shows a correlation between race and intelligence (ignoring that intelligence is hard to measure and test environments are shitty at best). Even if you had such evidence, you can just as easily turn that same research into one that demonstrates culture to have the same correlation with regards to intelligence. Every piece that focuses on race forgets that while "black community" might sound as segregation era as "back of the bus", the truth remains that it's hard to ensure that black folks and white folks act the same. One can argue that the traits for intelligence is just as easily propagated through the various generations of upbringing shared by blacks (nurture) as opposed to genes (nature) unless we find reliable ways to control both.And we can't.Even barring more abstract concepts such as culture, there are various other factors we can correlate to race that are non-genetic - food comes to mind, and again is a factor we can't really control outside of terrible, terrible school lunches.
>>34767>test environments are shitty at bestDoesn't seem to have an impact on any other race's test scores>One can argue that the traits for intelligence is just as easily propagated through the various generations of upbringing shared by blacks (nurture) as opposed to genes (nature)Blacks raised by non-black families still score lower on tests than other races.
>>34768Because kids raised by foster families is totally going to simulate a normal blood-related family perfectly well, you can totally slap a kid from one family into another family and get zero fucking differences.As for the test environment, do all the black kids share approximately the same proportion of every classroom? How about the white/mexican/asian kids? How about potential local influences such as pre-existing gangs of their respective race?Kidnapping little kids and sending them into robotic learning factories is the only way, and even then I propose many, many batches and professional interpretation by certified statisticians with stringent scrutiny from the academic community.
>>34770but then the robot arms that teach the black ones will be called malfunctioning after the black kids still turn out to be retards, and the whole test will be deemed a failure
>>34772BETTER MAKE BETTER ROBOTS THEN
>>34801if you looked a little further down on the wikipedia article you got that from you would see that the "stereotype threat" test results were found to be complete bullshit.
>>34732>(but those people will stick their fingers in their ears and run away anyway)This is basically what is happening in this thread right now, but replace "run away" with "run face-first into a wall repeatedly".
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-06/14/parental-filtering-industry-standardUK goes from strength to strength.
>>35589Up to date information: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23401076The biggest ISPs have agreed with the measures and the censorship will affect 95% of UK households, unless they specifically opt out (for now anyways, only a matter of time before that's not even possible).All to protect the children, of course.
>>36446"Excellent news. It's one small step towards ridding society of the evil of pornography.Sex should be for the bedroom, not for magazines and computer screens."
>>3644695% of the UK was blocked from Wikipedia for about a week when one of those "watchdog organizations" found naked photos of underage girls on it
>>36446Rate of Sexual Assault and Sexual Harassment Increases Twofold
>>36457That would only give them a great excuse to implement even more drastic measures 'before it gets further out of hand'.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/08/government-knocking-doors-because-google-searches/67864/American journalism at work, folksRead the correction at the bottom. It wasn't the Feds, that was just the woman's lies. The picture at the top is a horrible, horrible misrepresentation. Oh, and visit was based on a tip from the husband's ex-employer, who noticed the terms when he searched for them on the company's property.
Silk Road has been shut down by the FBI.
>>38013Don't be stupid, they didn't shut it down. They're keeping the servers running to see what information they can salvage from it. They'll only shut the servers down after getting all the information.
>>38029I think replacing the site with this image can be considered 'shut down'.
>>38038The servers are still running. It's not down, you just can't access it.Very few people can, but they're doing a lot of transactions on it.
>>38040You'd have to be retarded to keep using something seized by the feds.
>>38062Not if you're a fed.
>>38073Feds selling drugs to other feds?
>>38083Welcome to the wonderful world of CIA.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/nsa-porn-muslims_n_4346128.htmlCeiling cat NSA is watching you masturbate.
>An extraordinary demonstration has taken place in San Juan, a provincial city in Argentina.>In brief, a gathering of 7000 feminists attempted to attack a cathedral, which was defended by 1500 men. The men did not attempt to physically attack the women, but linked arms and formed a barrier.>And the feminist women? They spat on the men, sprayed them with aerosol spray paint, performed lewd acts in front of them, draped their underwear over them and generally behaved as if they had been seized by some primitive or savage spirit.https://youtube.com/v/wPUvUYU7Qzw
>>39329>performed lewd acts in front of them, draped their underwear over themYEAH THAT'LL SHOW 'EM
>>39329So why did they attack the cathedral?
>>39340>According to InfoCatolica, some of the women chanted a song, with the lyrics: “To the Roman Catholic Apostolic Church, who wants to get between our sheets, we say that we want to be whores, travesties and lesbians. Legal abortion in every hospital.” During the attack some men were visibly weeping. None of them retaliated against the abuses heaped on them.>After unsuccessfully trying to get into the building, the women burned a human-sized effigy of Pope Francis. “If the pope were a woman, abortion would be legal,” they shouted. The attack took place on Sunday, November 24th during the National Women’s Encounter, which annually brings together Argentinean feminists who support “women’s rights.”>The police reportedly told the media they were unable to intervene because “they are women." >The National Women’s Encounter takes place every year in different Argentinean cities, sponsored by the Department of Culture as a “social interest” event. According to the Argentinean pro-life site ArgentinosAlerta.org, this is not the first time that the feminists wind up in public violence against churches and Catholics. In past protests, the cathedral of Bariloche, Paraná and Posadas have also suffered damages from these groups.
>>39341weeping...This is depressing. But that gif is perfect.
>>39341Nothing wrong with what the women are fighting for but their behavior is reprehensible (well, some of it; stuff like burning effigies is okay).My grandmother is a Catholic who disagrees with the church's position on abortion but she's never vandalized churches or spit on anyone.Most feminists wouldn't.
>>39382>Nothing wrong with what the women are fighting foYes there is.Listen to what they are fighting for. The era of feminists suffraging for rights is dead, and many of those women strongly dislike what the movement has become since the 90's.They aren't fighting for equality, they are fighting to force men to be 2nd class citizens with themselves put on pedestals and worshiped.
>>39388I think he's talking about how they're fighting for the right of aborting their unborn children instead of fighting for feminism as a whole.
>>39388They're protesting the church's stance on abortion. It has nothing to do with making men "second class citizens."Please follow a line of conversation before being so eager to jump into a kneejerk anti-feminism outburst.
In the event you haven't been paying any attention, Nelson Mandela died just a few days ago.
>>39420I love anti-feminism outbursts.
>>39420If you followed your own advice, you'd read that it's written that the feminists lashed out at the church's stance as being an issue caused by males and the entire protest turned into a mini gender war. This is the beginning of your "line of conversation": >And the feminist women? They [ . . . ] behaved as if they had been seized by some primitive or savage spirit. So I'm not sure how an "anti-feminist" post is an "outburst". These were not anti-Catholic women, they were disrespectful feminists.
Fundamentalists, be they of the Roman Catholic Church or the cult of vagina dentata, are absolutely disgusting. >>According to InfoCatolica, some of the women chanted a song, with the lyrics: “To the Roman Catholic Apostolic Church, who wants to get between our sheets, we say that we want to be whores, travesties and lesbians. Legal abortion in every hospital.” During the attack some men were visibly weeping. Men shouldn't weep visibly! For shame!! This is a bigger travesty than the whoring. Imagine the sort of moral degradation that must have taken place such that men find it acceptable to cry like a bunch of pussies.
>>39465>Imagine the sort of moral degradation that must have taken placewould burning of churches suffice
>>39462>the feminists lashed out at the church's stance as being an issue caused by malesBut this is true. Not too many high-ranking women in the Catholic church.
>>39465Wow yeah it's written in a way to make the reader empathize with the only sane, semi-decent people unwillingly part of this display of subhuman shit, imagine that. Ur a real eagle-eyed reader.And you're kind of missing the point.
>>39468I never said it wasn't true, but the two sentences you just wrote have nothing to do with each other. Blame the people that wrote the bible (male) or god (the Father), but not the people that are standing by their doctrine. The idea that high ranking women would get the Catholic church to advocate support for abortion, which the bible is unquestionably against, is mind boggling. Religions are not meant to be partially subscribed to, and anyone that picks only the parts of a religion or scripture they feel good about to believe in is substantially more deluded than any fundamentalist.
>>39470I thought the Catholic church supports and has supported things that aren't in the Bible before. It'd be mind boggling if something that affects the lives of women a lot more than men did get support.Not exactly related but I was reminded of this:http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-april-11-2012/bro-choice
>>39470I haven't participated in this discussion so far, but the Bible itself is not "unquestionably against" abortion. It never states that life begins at conception and that the killing of an unborn child is akin to murder.Actually, the penalties for accidentally killing a fetus (by harming a pregnant woman) are rather tame. See Exodus 21:22-23. But now that I look it up, those passages are quite controversial (with most modern translations describing it as a "premature birth" where the KJV says "depart from her"). Anyway, that's pretty much my point. The Bible gives no explicit answer to the question of abortion, so Man must interpret God's intent however he will. I think that the Church's current stance is a fine interpretation, but it's not the only one. There are many Christians who are pro-choice, and I even know some pro-choice Catholics (I live in an area where Church dogma isn't highly stressed).But all that aside, those feminists are silly (as are most extremists). Pope Francis is already fairly "progressive," and you can't expect him to completely swing around the Church's stance on abortion. It would cause an enormous clusterfuck of controversy.I think he put it rather nicely in his recent address: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/joan-desmond/pope-francis-evangelii-gaudium-tackles-abortion-and-religious-freedom
>>39470>abortion, which the bible is unquestionably againstThe Bible says nothing about abortion. Anything the Bible is claimed to say about abortion is overly broad interpretation.Prostitution is a more complicated issue. Prostitutes are depicted as immoral, but non-religious prostitution does not seem to be forbidden outright, nor does having sex with a prostitute unless it is adultery. (Most Bible verses raised against prostitution forbid 'sexual immorality', which does not include prostitution in Mosaic law.) It is, however, forbidden to push your own daughter into prostitution.Lesbianism is not explicitly forbidden in the Bible, but a reasonable case can be made for lesbian sexual intercourse; sexual intercourse between men is forbidden. The Bible rarely makes explicit statements for women, so even though it's not explicitly stated you could deduce that this extends to women. There's nothing in the Bible about homosexual romance when no sex is involved.Cross-dressing is explicitly forbidden in the Bible (Deuteronomy 22:5).
>>39477>Actually, the penalties for accidentally killing a fetus (by harming a pregnant woman) are rather tame. See Exodus 21:22-23. But now that I look it up, those passages are quite controversial (with most modern translations describing it as a "premature birth" where the KJV says "depart from her").That's for accidental surprise abortion, which has nothing to do with actual abortion, similar to how accidentally getting someone's slave killed (payment of 30 shekels, Exodus 21:32) has nothing to do with murder.
>>39477There is nothing remotely vague about the belief that your human existence is recognized by an omnipotent god before conception, and if the argument of the morality of abortion is centered on when human life begins then there is nothing to be interpreted about the impact of that belief. The Christian god has a perfect plan for you that doesn't just start during the third trimester. There is also nothing vague about the bible's stance on murder. I'm not sure why you're bringing up the rest of this, but the bible is also clear about sex outside of marriage and sex without any procreational intent. It's all considered sinful. This is why organizations were resisting being responsible for covering birth control in the health care offered to their employees.
>>39501I'm not sure if you're trolling or just indoctrinated by your local (probably Catholic by the sound of it) church.>your human existence is recognized by an omnipotent god before conception>The Christian god has a perfect plan for you>sex outside of marriage and sex without any procreational intent. It's all considered sinful.None of those are stated in the Bible, just widely held opinions in churches (and official interpretation in Catholicism). God is omniscient and omnipotent, but what He does to your life is up to His whims. Christians generally agree that God takes care of people in their everyday lives, but there is no reason to believe (beyond wishful thinking) that He has carefully planned out your life to make everything have meaning.There are multiple instances in the Bible of sex between non-married people is depicted in a non-negative way, and it is not forbidden to have sex for reasons other than procreation (though procreation was seen as a virtue by the Israelites (due to God's command to populate the earth), so procreation was important to them in sex). Only sex between a married person and someone that person is not married to (adultery) is sinful according to the Bible (in addition to 'sexual immorality' such as incest).
It's a shame the Bible is complete bullshit.
>>39509Why would I be trolling? Even more, why would you think that an establishment run by people who literally devote their lives to a scripture would pull shit out of thin air? Do you think they're trolling the entire world? Jeremiah 1:5 is the popular verse thrown around but there are plenty that reference god's work in the womb and before conception. Sex is biblically stated to be a pleasure of the flesh, and indulgence is sinful. We are talking about a Catholic issue, why would I be arguing any other perspective? If you care about why these important religious authorities hold these apparently misconceived notions about what the bible says is immoral it's incredibly easy to Google. And yes, no shit, the bible says some things that are easy to point out as being contradictory.Seriously though, I can respect Catholics and other conservative religions for actually sticking to their beliefs. Protestantism was the beginning of watered-down, willful delusion. It's like the fast food revolution of Christianity, "Have it your way!"
>>39518There are many different interpretations of the bible and even interpretations by specific sects (including Catholicism) change. The bible is clearly not an objective thing. Therefore yes it is reasonable to hold the current church responsible for current church doctrine.
>>39518>Even more, why would you think that an establishment run by people who literally devote their lives to a scripture would pull shit out of thin air?Because they have power, and power will always be used to force people's morals onto other people. They want people to be convinced that X, so they say the Bible says X, and anyone who disagrees is now a heretic.>Seriously though, I can respect Catholics and other conservative religions for actually sticking to their beliefs. Protestantism was the beginning of watered-down, willful delusion.Protestantism was the reaction against Catholicism going completely retarded. They've cleaned up their act a bit since (no more paying cash to the church to have your sins forgiven), but they still have a lot of doctrines that just don't make sense with the Bible. For example, throughout the Bible people are repeatedly punished for idolatry of all kinds. So what do the Catholics do? They create tons of art depicting God, turn Mary into an object of worship, and appoint a bunch of historic people as saints.>Jeremiah 1:5That verse shows that Jeremiah, one of the major prophets, was chosen by God before he was born. You and I are not major prophets, so we can't just assume it also refers to us. It also means nothing about whether a fetus is a human being; the verse specifically refers to BEFORE he was even a fetus, and it refers to God's omniscience (He knew Jeremiah would be born in the future, He was not referring to a Jeremiah that already existed back then).>Sex is biblically stated to be a pleasure of the flesh, and indulgence is sinful.Please provide sources for your statements.>>39514>It's a shame the Bible is complete bullshit. Even if you're not religious, you'll have to admit the Bible has philosophical, cultural and historic value.
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http://importance.corante.com/archives/2005/05/04/star_trek_and_pedophilia_claim_followup.phpDo you like Star Trek?
In case people are wondering what>>45490>>45496 and>>45497are talking about (not everybody lives in the US, even in the Netherlands it's barely getting any coverage), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Michael_Brown. The short version is that a cop shot an unarmed black 18 year old guy, which sparked protests against racism and the militarization of the police.The slightly longer version as is currently known:Michael Brown and a friend stole some cigars from a convenience store. The convenience store clerk called the cops, and as the cops were heading there they came across Michael Brown - however, the cop did not know Brown was the suspect, and only stopped his car next to him because he was walking on the road and according to the officer, because he was hindering traffic by doing so. (It is possible the officer realized Brown was the suspect while they were talking, but this is unconfirmed.)The cop told the two black men to "get the fuck on the sidewalk" (literal quote). After the two refused, the cop grabbed Brown around the neck. Brown tried to break free. (The police alleges that Brown tried to grab the cop's gun, but witness testimonies say otherwise.)The cop then said "I'll shoot you" and shot Brown. Brown broke free and ran away, and the cop shot him in his back. Brown turned around, held his hands up and said "I don't have a gun. Stop shooting!". The cop shot several more times, killing Brown.This sparked protests in Ferguson, the town where the incident took place, and police responded violently in military gear. Rioting by the protesters also took place; accounts disagree on how much rioting there was and whether the rioting took place before the violent police response or afterwards (though they definitely lean to police immediately responding violently).Social media and American news sites have reported on the situation in Ferguson a lot in the past week, mainly criticizing the harsh police response and how much the police looks like the army nowadays. Stories of excessive police violence in the past year (SWAT teams raiding homes of non-violent people suspecting drug possession, injuring or killing people in doing so) have also become more popular due to the incident.The most recent development is the revelation that Brown stole cigars from the convenience store. Up until less than a day ago, it was believed that Brown was an entirely innocent person approached by an otherwise entirely unrelated cop.
>>45497Regardless of what Brown may have done, he has the right to punishment via the legal system rather than an on-the-spot execution after the police determines he probably did it. It's not going to end up well for anyone if this kind of thing becomes tolerated.And the militarization of the police is ridiculous no matter how you look at it. The cops don't need SWAT teams for things like drug raids. US police is already violent enough as-is, we don't need to supply them with toys encouraging even more violence.
So a filthy nigger stole from a store then fought with a cop who said he'll shoot him. If he didn't want to die he shouldn't of stole.
>>45499>Up until less than a day ago, it was believed that Brown was an entirely innocent personNiggers still believe this because they're delusional.
>>45501To be precise, he said he would shoot him right before actually shooting him.
>>45499That photo looks really staged.
>>45501>shouldn't ofI will fucking find you and kill you.
>>45504Relevant: One of the actions of the protesters was to hold up their hands in the vicinity of the police and say 'don't shoot', mimicking the last moments of Michael Brown. The guy in this picture probably walked up to the police with his hands up in protest. The police response is very much the real deal, though.(I posted this picture because I already posted >>45440 in the 'last saved picture' thread.)
>>45505I'm SORRY ;_;
A Dutchman honoured by Israel for hiding a Jewish child during World War Two has handed back his medal after six of his relatives were killed in an Israeli air strike on Gaza.
>>45508What a nazi.
Why did they stop him from killing all the filthy jews?
>>45510his goal wasn't to kill all the jews.They were put in camps the same way asians were put into camps in the USA.I mean, honestly, do you think the Germans, the masters of efficiency, would have left even one of them alive had their plan been to kill them in the first place?
>>45511The dead can't be forced to work.
>>45511>I mean, honestly, do you think the Germans, the masters of efficiency, would have left even one of them alive had their plan been to kill them in the first place?Yes? You severely underestimate how poorly Nazi Germany was run. Hell, even them losing the war is even the fault of their own poor decisions - had they never attacked Russia, they'd probably have captured all of Europe without the Allies being able to seriously do anything against it.Their early eugenics program also had the possibility to succeed, but they fucked it up. At the start, all they did was sterilize the people they didn't want to reproduce. Though people weren't exactly happy with it, very few ran away from it. If continued, it would lead to an extremely drastic reduction in the victims' population, almost to the point of extinction. But then they became impatient and decided the 'Untermenschen' needed to die this generation and started working them to death in labor camps, then sending them to extermination camps when labor wasn't enough to kill them all. Naturally, rumors of this happening was more than enough to cause tons of people to run away, forever dooming their eugenics program.You can say a lot about Nazi Germany, but efficient they were not.
>>45511>[...] are [...] so repulsive...so conniving...so despicable that some people are willing to destroy themselves just to rid the planet of one or two!Now I understand why Americans are so afraid of suicide terrorists!
>>45551Eventually they will leave the niggers to their own devices and the town will burn down
>>45552>Eventually they will leave the niggers to their own devices and the town will die from Ebola
>>45564I couldn't believe that when I heard it. Surely there is a limit to how retarded people can be?
At least they look cool while trampling on people's civil rights.
>>45598What are you, Fox News? While Al Jazeera is indeed funded and thus influenced by the government of Qatar, it has been praised for at times circumventing censorship, promoting freedom of the press and reporting information other major news stations refuse to cover. American media are controlled just as much by the US government as Al Jazeera is controlled by Qatar; both should be viewed with distrust, but Al Jazeera is no less reliable than most US news sources.That said, lots of journalists got teargassed. They're pretty much teargassing anyone near the protests, regardless of whether they engage in protests or not. The guy that got his press badge ripped off and told it meant jack shit was from Vice News.
>>45602To each their own. I consider their degree of positive bias towards organizations and activities that I think are the scum of the earth to be repulsive, personally, so I'm not going to give them any advertising revenue.
http://thevandykecollection.com/embarrassed-to-photograph-ferguson/http://ryanschuessler.com/2014/08/21/i-will-not-be-returning-to-ferguson/To me this is the point where the media is no longer simply reporting what is happening but rather becoming a hindrance and making the situation worse. Over the past few days journalists have been a part of inciting protestors by getting dangerously close and not always following police orders.[...]I am embarrassed by the way the media acted tonight, myself included and have decided that the media is now a problem in Ferguson. I will be leaving Missouri in the morning while hundreds of other journalists will continue to record events and battle with police for the right to be there.
>>45627Maybe I'm just being overly cynical, but if what these two say is true and it really is such an issue, it sounds like the perfect excuse for the government to introduce restrictive new laws regarding journalists and what they can do/where they can go.
The cop who shot the nigger has a fund page to raise some money for his trial and naturally trolls have donated. It even surpassed the fundraiser for the nigs funeral and the goons are up in arms.
>>45644How much did the respective fundraisers raise?
>>45648Around 310.000 for the cop.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson/gofundme.com/OfficerWilsonFundraiserAround 206.000 for the nig.gofundme.com/justiceformikebrown
It’s hard to imagine that there are people in the world who are psychotically twisted enough to create a video game based around the tragic death of an unarmed teenager. Unfortunately, not only are there people mentally twisted enough to create something like that, there are also people who are sick enough to visit the website, just to engage in a cartoon-like reenactment of that killing.The “game,” which is called ‘Pop-A-Ni**er,’ features a cartoon caricature of officer Darren Wilson, the Ferguson cop who shot and killed an unarmed 18 year old kid, Michael Brown, on August 11, 2014. It also features Michael Brown’s photo, and invites users to use it as target practice.http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/09/05/video-game-michael-brown-shooting-pop-a-nig/The actual game.http://pop-a-nig.com/
>>45895This is actually pretty fun.
>>45904the game is bullshit
>>45905I got 44 points.
>>45905The leaderboard is bullshitI got 80 niggers and I'm not there
I still don't get this IT'S COOL TO BE OFFENSIVE/RACIST ON THE INTERNET mentality you all have. Is it because you guys grew up on 4chan? Or were you always like this?
>>45910It's less of a "it's cool to be racist/offensive on the internet" thing than it is a "it's not lame to be racist/offensive on the internet" thing.That and it's a nice kind of saber-rattling to remind people like you that freedom is still real, even if it's just on the internet.
>>45910Why does seeing the word "nigger" on a screen bother you so much?
>>45913You must be pretty stupid if you think the word itself is what bothers me.I'm too tired for this shit. Go back to playing your game or whatever.
>>45910Niggers have no culture, are the main carriers of diseases like AIDS and ebola, do most of the crimes in the US and a lot of the EU even though they're the minority (for now), they can't speak English or any other language for shit.They immigrate in mass because they know their countries are the shitholes of the planet, yet they bring what makes their country so bad in their bags.It is true there are some nice black people, but they're a very great minority.If seeing some racist text on the internet bothers you that much, you've either never actually interacted with black people, are a white guilt retard, both of those or are a nigger yourself.http://www.amren.com/ar/2009/07/index.html
>>45915Cool opinions, dude. Your mom must be really proud.
>>45916And yes, she is proud.She knows all these niggers, gypsies and Chinese are what's making our country going to shit.She's still stuck in the past for other countries though and thinks there aren't any of those people in Germany or the UK.
>>45914Hey go hang yourself
>>45909The creator said that the leaderboards are currently bugged. Also, they reset to prevent hacked high-scores.
>>45895I'm really surprised they didn't say you can shoot jews too.
>>45915>Niggers have no cultureThey very clearly do have culture. Are you forgetting that a lot of our modern music derives from the blues, a genre invented entirely by black people? They have plenty of other culture too, but we complain about them having it. Rap, their clothing (hoodies and shit), tons of popular dances, etc.>are the main carriers of diseases like AIDS and ebolaThat's because these diseases mainly exist in Africa, and practically the entirety of Africa is a shithole. I'll come back to this subject later in this post.>do most of the crimes in the US and a lot of the EU even though they're the minority (for now)That's because they're in worse living conditions than the average non-black. There's a direct correlation between living conditions and crime rate.>they can't speak English or any other language for shit.This just comes out of nowhere. The great majority of black people in the US can speak English fine. Plenty of African countries even use English as their official language.>They immigrate in mass because they know their countries are the shitholes of the planet, yet they bring what makes their country so bad in their bags.How do you bring dictatorship and corruption in your bags? Africa is a mess because the leaders keep it a mess - educated, healthy, prosperous people can rise up against unfair governments and end their corrupt lives of luxury. It takes time for their societies to progress to beyond being a shithole, and the time right before it starts to get better is the part where society is at its worst - the exact same thing happened to Europe during the industrial revolution. Our average lifespans were as bad as the ones in Zimbabwe, and the masses were exploited and left to die when sick. It took us a very long time to get from there to here, and it will take them a long time to make that progress as well.Now, let me ask you a question: Can you be held responsible for your government eroding your right to privacy, dismissing your right to a fair trial (terrorists don't deserve a trial), countless human rights abuses of prisoners, waging war in a country on the other side of the globe to topple the government and barely doing anything about the resulting power vacuum, and your government exerting their political influence to make other countries bend to their culture, values and political and commercial interest? You can't, because you're locked in a shitty two-party system with both parties backed by the same large corporations and your government is doing whatever the fuck they want regardless of whether the citizens like it or not. How much less can we hold Africans responsible for their governments turning their countries into a shithole by actively working against their citizens?>It is true there are some nice black people, but they're a very great minority.>If seeing some racist text on the internet bothers you that much, you've either never actually interacted with black people, are a white guilt retard, both of those or are a nigger yourself.I have interacted with black people, and other than some kids hanging out together and being a nuisance in general I've never had any problematic experiences with them. On the other hand, I've met plenty of nice black people. I am white and feel that 'white guilt' is bullshit (as far as the 'guilt' part - I do feel that Western influence on Africa and slavery are factors that should be kept in mind when considering why Africa is a mess and problems with black people's living conditions exist; black people can't be entirely blamed for their problems in that regard).What bothers me about racism on the internet is that1) It's mostly mindless parroting people use to fit in or look cool.2) When it isn't (as in your post), it's frequently partially or entirely based on ignorance or misinformation.
>>45918>[...] Chinese are what's making our country going to shit.Really? As a Dutch person, this surprises me. In the Netherlands, Chinese people tend to be exemplary citizens, working hard and neatly and properly keeping all the rules. They do have a strong own culture, but that culture pretty much forces them to be good people towards others. Are they that different in the US, or is this just a case of 'everybody with a different skin color is bad'?
I'm black AMA
You people are stupid and living in the 1800s or something.It's homos that are destroying this country! See this accurate graph.Probably half of the people who are edgy racists online are just doing it because it's "cool", the other half are people like >>45915, ultranationalist and/or neofascist swine who shouldn't be let out of their /pol/ ghetto. But look to the bright side, everyone, in a hundred years those sort of views will have mostly faded away and been replaced by some other reason for man to hate man.
Black people seriously are shitty though.
>>45924Chinese people are bad because they're filling the world with their shitty cheap poisonous products and the EU makes it even easier for them to open a shop here.I remember some time ago reading in a newspaper about a mom who bought her newborn milk from a Chinese store.I don't think I need to explain what happened.
>>45923>That's because these diseases mainly exist in Africa, and practically the entirety of Africa is a shithole.Why do you think Africa is a shithole?Thousands of years ago the Romans built beautiful castles and monuments. Black people lived in caves and dirt houses. Surely it was the gubment and the evil dictatorship oppressing them.>That's because they're in worse living conditions than the average non-black. There's a direct correlation between living conditions and crime rate.Oh look, the popular "he be poor need mo welfare it's ok to act like a fucking chimp when you don't eat at a restaurant every night"The gubment gives most of them welfare, a house and food to eat. What the fuck more do you want?There are lots of unemployed people here but that doesn't mean they start living the gangsta gta crime life. Well, the majority of them doesn't.>The great majority of black people in the US can speak English fine. Plenty of African countries even use English as their official language.Their own version of "English". It is true Africans speak better than a lot of American blacks, from what I've heard.>Now, let me ask you a question: Can you be held responsible for your government eroding your right to privacyNo, but you can be held responsible for this.http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=de1_1394099792>Muslims raped over 300 Swedish children and 700 women in first 7 months of 2013 TIP OF THE ICEBERG as 90 percent of them go unreported
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=68a_1410105070These things are not human.They're the cancer of this world. They should all get exterminated.
There is no point in arguing with someone whose main source of information is LiveLeak and AmRen.
>>45938What is your opinion on abortion?
>>45943It's better to keep it.I hate the kind of whore that gets fucked at clubs every week because lol can just abort, but making abortion illegal will not stop all of them and those girls will either abort their own way or be terrible mothers.It's a good way to keep the number of future criminals in check.>>45942That Armen article is the only article I've ever read from that site and liveleak is used by pretty much everyone to watch this kind of video without Google's jokes.But yeah, keep assuming and spouting bullshit in attempt to make yourself look good when you don't how to respond in any other way.
>>45950And of course abortion is needed in some cases, like if the mother was actually raped or being pregnant is causing her serious health problems. Or if the kid is retarded.
>>45938>Thousands of years ago the Romans built beautiful castles and monuments. Black people lived in caves and dirt houses.If we're going to play it like that, Europe is waaaaaay behind Asia and Africa. Egypt had a major civilization 7000 years ago, when Europe was still twiddling its thumbs. Africa-based Carthage had major influence well before anything in Europe did. Kush was an African kingdom when Europe was still full of barbarians. Pretty much every other major civilization was based in Asia. It wasn't until around 300 BC that those barbarians of Europe finally got their shit together (due to Asian and African influence) and got their first major civilization (Greece). If we look at the entirety of history, Africa is actually the second most civilized continent, second only to Asia and well ahead of Europe.>it's ok to act like a fucking chimp when you don't eat at a restaurant every nightI never said crime was acceptable. It's not, and that's why we punish it. It's just that a certain percentage of people are capable of committing crimes relatively easily, and prosperity is what keeps those people from committing crimes. Poorer people have less to lose, and thus the percentage of them willing to commit crimes have nothing stopping them. If white people were as poor as black people they'd commit an equal amount of crimes.>Their own version of "English".Hilarious. Are you even aware that English originated in Britain and you are speaking a butchered own version of it?>Muslims raped over 300 Swedish children and 700 women in first 7 months of 2013That's 1000 rape cases (assuming child rape is included in rape statistics) out of roughly 6600 cases per year.Now let's do the math. 6600 rape cases per year - in 7 months, that would be 6600 / 12 * 7 = 3850 rape cases. Now, Sweden has a foreign population of a bit above 20%, with the majority of those (let's say 70%, though likely more) being from Muslim countries. That means that, if we assume the worst-case scenario and the rape count is 1000 (though more likely the 300 are counted as a separate crime), we have 0.20 * 0.70 = 14% of the population responsible for 26% of rape cases. That means, AT WORST, those immigrants are 1.86 times as likely to commit rape as non-immigrants. Adjust for statistical exaggeration and social inequality, and you'll find that whites are as likely to commit rape as any other race.>TIP OF THE ICEBERG as 90 percent of them go unreportedHardly. 'Most of it goes unreported' is true for almost every country, though even then 90% is only in the worst shitholes. But Sweden? They're notable in rape statistics due to how ridiculously inflated their numbers are. Seriously, just look at this chart. If anything, it's getting overreported due to how broadly rape is defined in their laws.
>>45954I'm not that guy, but it's silly to talk of Northern Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa as if they're the same culturally. The people from Northern Africa aren't even Black; they're Arabic.
>>45957Old-time Egyptians and suchlike weren't Arabs, that region didn't become Arabized until the Islamic conquests.The point stands that racism is for children and the elderly.
>>45940Those are clearly just some youths having fun you racist fuck.
>>45958They weren't sub-saharan Africans either, though.>The point stands that racism is for children and the elderly.It is perfectly acceptable to hate gypsies on account of them being worse than cockroaches.
>>45967I wouldn't know, we don't have those here in the land of the free and the home of the brave.Surely they can't all be baby-tossing pickpockets.
>>45958>The point stands that racism is for children and the elderly.Are you from the UK?Racism is healthy and perfectly normal. We're built to empathize and care about our own kin over other races to some extent. If you refuse to realize that and think only unenlightened, ignorant assholes are "racist" then you're very deluded, an idiot, or both. And I don't understand your bar chart of rape. It's working against your case here. Sweden is a "progressive" multicultural shithole that invites around a thousand immigrants into the country each year. Yet they have the highest rape rate? What a coincidence.
>>45971I'm American and you're responding to two posts by two different authors. You, on the other hand, are European. I can tell by your redneck opinions and your reference to gypsies.We oughta just let Russia annex your entire godforsaken continent and stamp out your silly ethnocentrism with their silly communism.
>>45972Please stop propagating the dumb burgernaut stereotype. Your post contains nothing but insults.Also, use this >>45974 thread.
>>45976That's because reason is wasted on subhumans like you, Anon.
>>45972Ya got the wrong guy; that's another poster. I'm also an American. I asked if you were from the UK since most people there seem use those exact words I quoted. So I was wondering if it was a common trait among brits or just pseudo-intellectuals in general.
>>45971There is huge fucking difference between prioritizing empathizing and caring for one's own kin and stuff spouted like in >>45915. If you refuse to realize that and think only pseudo-intellectual, white guilt assholes are "pro-multicultural" then you're very deluded, an idiot, or both.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/ebola-spreading-exponentially-patients-seek-beds-liberia-n198516http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/09/09/oxford-study-predicts-15-more-countries-are-at-risk-of-ebola-exposure/Are you ready for the ebola pandemic, /bun/?
>>46003My first playthrough of Plague Inc. epidemic was about a few orders of magnitude more deadly. I still had trouble with Madagascar, though. Fucking Madagascar.
>>45982What that guy is saying is true though.
>>46005So I guess in the wake of a global ebola pandemic I should move to Madagascar.
Invading Iraq for a third time due to extremists groups we created in response to previous invasions will definitely work out this time!#problemsolved
>>46025Third time's a charm!
>>46025What do you suggest, letting them run amok?
>>46030I think we should welcome the global caliphate.
>>46034But Al-Baghdaddy doesn't have the Sayyid trait
>>45982The post you refer to is completely true though. Maybe one day you'll realize it own your own like several people in this very thread have. I think that's the only way for you.And parroting what I said just makes you look like an angry, spoiled child, please try to improve.
Mootles is retiring. Is this the end?https://www.4chan.org/news?all#118
>>48658He should delete 4chan for a week or so before retiring. That would be a nice goodbye-present.
>>48658God, what a fag.Still, I'm grateful.>>48665Would be funny if he banned every current poster for a week.
RIP SkyMall ;_;http://www.wsj.com/articles/in-flight-catalog-skymall-files-for-bankruptcy-1422025308
>>29451>"Apple brand is widely recognized and the company says that A.pl, by using the name that sounds similar, is using Apple's reputation," patent office spokesman Adam Taukert said.Fucking jews
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/19/great-sim-heist/The worst part is nobody will ever be punished for it.
>>49413Opened this expecting many copies of the game "The Sims" stolen, was very disappointed.
>>49423I expected someone playing the sims and conducting a heist inside the sims
did they find Putin yet?
>>49825Apparently he just popped up again and nothing really happened.
Hydrogen Bomb party in North Korea.
>>53692patently false, seismic signatures are similar to 2013 levels
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